Wanting to buy a 2-wheeler

[Calloveri]

Hi, i'm 24 years old and i have absolutely no skill in driving a motorcycle but i have driven cars for the past 6 years fast and slow ones, ok, on to the point.

I suddenly realized one day that i'm missing exitement from my life, driving a car has become very boring and now i have decided to get a motorcycle, the only problem that i'm having is that i dont have literally NO MONEY, anyway. Should i start gathering money for the gear before getting the bike or another way around?
I have calculated that the gears would cost me approximetly 800€+, licence would be 790€+ and the motorcycle 400cc around 2000€..
I know i should start from slow bikes before going into bigger ones, but the thing is that i'm a speeder, i dont want to wait behind slow blocky cars and i need to get rid of the quickly as possible, always bowing for speed limits of course

What you think i should get first, the bike, gear or a job?

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Job.
Beginners riding course.
Buying a bike and gear pretty much all happens at the same time.

A word of warning to the speeder inside you, keep in mind that its speed that causes most newbie crashes. Either from taking a corner to fast or slow, going too fast and panic hitting the brakes too hard. All of the bad things that happen to newer riders, 99% are speed related. So before you start thinking you're gonna be fast on a motorcycle, cause you can be in a car. Just remember you gotta learn to walk before you can run, and if you don't respect speed on a motorcycle. Learning to walk again will definitely be part of you're future.

[Calloveri]

Dont worry i'm not that type of person that goes like "LALALALALA" on every corner.. Now, what do you think about first timer on a 400cc/500cc bike, are those in the "safe" motorcycle category for beginners to start with or are they too "OP"..?

[bricksrheavy]

I moved from a 50cc scooter to a 500cc bike (as seen in the avatar ), and even though a 4 stroke 500 is rather forgiving when it comes to making noob mistakes it also requires self control and lots of practice to get comfortable with. So, IF you can control yourself not to speed/race (when I started riding it I was moving slower than 30% of the cars and just keeping up with the rest), and IF you are willing to put a a lot of time&effort into parking lot practice - a 500 COULD be fine for you.

[Calloveri]

Does it kick much when you go full throttle? If so, is there a chance that the bike goes wheelie? I'm myself am afraid that it might happen, though i want the bike to be fast in accelerator but not too torgy.

Actually i havent mentioned that i've been thinking about this one 500cc motorcycle that has been throttled to a 25kw, that would be ideal beginner and amateur bike, first i can get used to slower machine and when i feel confident (probably few years will go by) i can go and unthrottle it to 34kw-40kw.

[bricksrheavy]

Does it kick much when you go full throttle? If so, is there a chance that the bike goes wheelie? ...

This is exactly why I was talking about self control. As a novice rider you shouldn't even think about cracking the throttle wide open. My bike revs up to 10000 rpms and for the first couple of weeks I didn't even rev it over 6000 and let alone crank the throttle wide open. If you practice on regular basis, and have a healthy respect (not fear) for the bike an accidental wheelie is almost impossible. That restricted 500 sounds like a good idea, what bike is it?

[Calloveri]

Well there is two of these bikes i'm looking at actually, the first one is Suzuki GS 500E 4-stroke 1991, aparrently it is not throttled, the other one is Cagiva River 500 4-stroke 2000, and its throttled to 25kw. People claim its bad and the fuel tank is supposedly plastic and their motorcycles has has broke for unknown reason, i don't mind if its a plastic bike, but it's really cheap. it would become great project bike for me.

Both bikes are below 2000€+ mark the suzuki is only 1380€ and it looks to be in great condition from the outside, also the Cagiva looks to be fine no scartches and nothing missing 1900€.
Even if they would break they would be quite cheap to fix.

Cag's milage meter shows 26k kilometers, i'm not sure how to say it in miles, but it's really low milage for bike i suppose.

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Get the suzuki, don't ever buy a bike from a unknown company. I have heard of almost every single bike manufacturer and never heard of that company. Plastic gas tank? um fuck no lol.

[bricksrheavy]

Get the suzuki, don't ever buy a bike from a unknown company. I have heard of almost every single bike manufacturer and never heard of that company. Plastic gas tank? um fuck no lol.

Never heard of Cagiva?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagiva
Then I guess you don't live in Europe lol. But yeah, they're rare even here so I don't know much about that bike. The Suzuki is reliable and ok for a learners bike, but, we're talking 20 yrs old here so make sure you take it to a mechanic for a thorough check. Where do you live Calloveri? Judging by the nick I'd guess Italy.

[Calloveri]

I live in Finland and yeah i prefer myself the Suzuki more than Cagiva, the company that has produced Cagiva was from italy and the company has stopped producing the river models i believe, so as what comes to parts there is very few in sale so it might be hard to repair it, though the body might become useful later on.