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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby RicoGC » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:54 am

okay for the slow stuff and 8's, get into first and apply the rear brake slightly to slow you as far down as the revs will let you - every bike is different here, just play with the clutch if you feel the bike stuttering. If you're tuned in at a constant speed, you don't have to worry about it anymore with more brainpower to control your movements.

I think the instructors already showed you how to do the slow turns - what's the problem exactly? Just over-exaggerate the counter balancing by really shifting your weight and when you steer, lock one arm up and hold steady when you found your line.. again, the rear brake is your best friend to control those tight turns.

When you practice, start wide and get tighter, maybe you're not comfortable with turning the wheel as much as you should be because you feel unstable due to ineffective counter balancing. Drive in a circle and see how far you can go..


another thing.. I remember that they've put me on a crappy Honda CB(F?) in my lesson (only had one) and on a VTR on the assessment day which was heaps better in any way - so ask them for a different bike?
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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby animeguitarist » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:49 pm

Hey thanks for the video. Now i know what i am in for. I take it that mod2 is the same as the road ride on a cbt?
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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby Jixxer » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:18 am

Mod 2 is similar to the road ride in a CBT, in the respect that you should just be riding as you would on the road following the examiner's directions.

Where it's different is that the examiner will be making a lot more observations of what your're doing, and he'll ask you to find a safe place to stop and move off at least 3 times. To ensure you can safely move out of traffic, stop and then safely move out back into traffic and carry on. Those are the only manouvers he'll ask you to do, other than just obaying the laws of the road ect. It is a lot easier to fail a mod 2 than the cbt ride because they're looking for a much higher level of riding competence, and confidence.

One of the most memorable things my instructor told me before my test is this: "If you can't show the examiner who doesn't know you, and has never ridden with you before that you are not confident and competent riding a 125cc motorcycle. Then why should he feel that you'll be able to ride a 600cc death machine without killing yourself or anyone else? After all thats what he's giving you a license for."

Edit: Oh and in regards to my crash... yeah... it wrecked. Luckily I didn't break anything, but I tore the muscle between my shoulderblade and my spine. And my whole body ached for the next few days whenever I tried to do any movement. The bike took it worse though, bent the frame and pretty much destroyed the whole right side of it. Tell you what though, I landed head first. My helmet probably saved my life, and full leathers saved me some nasty road rash on my shoulder and leg, and the armour in the shoulder probably saved the ball joint of my shoulder getting smashed up. ATGATT. I'll post a picture of my jacket at some point, it still has the marks on it from where I landed and scuffed it up. I havn't had them cleaned off to remind me every time I put it on.
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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby LithCS » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:31 am

@ Davedebekker.

The most important thing about the slow slalom, figure 8, half circle, fast slalom, and pretty much everything else, is where you look. When doing the slow slalom, look straight ahead at eye level, don't look at the cones. As far as throttle and clutch go, just let it roll with the clutch, don't lower the rpm's when you go too fast but use the rear brake a little.
And yea, counter balancing will make it a lot smoother.
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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby davedebekker » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:52 pm

Got my first exam tommorow, wish me luck 8) Thanks for the tips guys, helped alot!
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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby Sigurd » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:26 pm

Good Luck Dave.. Dutch exam is easy and it's holiday time... so no worries :-)

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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby LithCS » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:43 pm

goodluck :)
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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby Wever1988 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:12 pm

keep us updated!

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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby davedebekker » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:56 pm

Hey guys, good evening.
Guess what, i passed my exam ;D. I only failed on the quick slalom test, i passed the other ones. Slow tests: Parking in parkingspace, drive away from parkingspace to the right, slow slalom and 8 figure. Fast tests: emergency brake test, precision brake test and evasive manouvre and fast slalom, which i failed twice. Thanks for all the tips and video's. I dont say it was easy and a piece of cake, it was 30 degrees and i had minor nerves. The tips to counter steer in corners and look in the distance instead of looking too close infront of you helped me out big time! Thanks for that!

Only 2 more to go, Theory exam and Final exam, cant wait  ;)

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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby [1up] » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:19 pm

Practice weaving on straightaways, you will get so good at flicking the bike that eventually it will just be second nature to shift left and right fast.
Which will not only improve your cornering ability but also could save your ass if the road surprises you with say a dead possum or something.
Weaving is the skill that has saved me from at least 2 crashes in the last 3 seasons.

Congrats on passing and good luck on the rest :)
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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby Sigurd » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:58 pm

Yeah that one is over congrats!! Good luck for the others :-)

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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby Wever1988 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:43 am

[1up] wrote:Practice weaving on straightaways.


You might get a ticket for that, seen it happen.

Great job passing the AVB Test, and atleast it wasn't raining like the days before.

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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby davedebekker » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:34 pm

Hey guys, long time no see.
I am happy to inform you that I passed all motor exams.
A thank to all for your time and help.
I really appreciate it. ;)
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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby Wever1988 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:26 pm

davedebekker wrote:Hey guys, long time no see.
I am happy to inform you that I passed all motor exams.
A thank to all for your time and help.
I really appreciate it. ;)
Gr Dave


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Re: Dropped bike during lesson :(

Postby [1up] » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:37 am

davedebekker wrote: you guys got any tips for a rookie :D


Best advice i can give for slow speed maneuvers, like figure 8's, u-turns ect ect. Would be to stand up on the pegs, instead of sitting down. Standing allows you to better shift your weight side to side, giving you finer control of your balance. When i first learned to do the figure 8, i was running wide every time. I simply wasn't able to both lean and play the throttle light enough to go so slow, Then my instructor told me to try standing on the pegs more, instead of sitting. Once i learned that little trick i was able to pull tight figure 8's with perfection after very little practice on any of the bikes even the cruisers which was way harder than the other bikes. So try it, you might be surprised how much easier it is :)
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